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Solstice Project
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:06:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Enduros wrote: In quake you need to press way more buttons then in EvE. You also need to move your mouse more. Therefore Quake requires more intelligence to play than being an Air Traffic Controller does ************OP on Crack Alert********** This made me laugh even more than UaEs post! XD |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:10:00 -
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Bischopt wrote:Enduros wrote:Why do so many see EvE as "shoot at other people PvP" game? Because the "shoot other people PvP" is the most awesome part of the game. First you start playing eve, you fly around, run some missions etc. Then you do some exploration, wormholes and such and think "this is pretty cool I suppose" Then you get attacked in lowsec, your heartrate jumps to about 200 beats per minute and your hands start shaking. Then at some point you just kind of realise that you've been doing nothing but PvP for the past 5 years and EVE is totally a PvP game where you shoot at other people. You are clearly lying.
When i started EvE, i was hauling stuff from, to and in between lowsec in my huge iteron.
The part about the heartrate is true, though.
First time i sat at the lowsec gate i had to leave the PC and go peeing... |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:21:00 -
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Julius Priscus wrote:this how forced undocking works..
its great for the gankers till they are forced to undock when they don't wanna. then its not fair.
Try me............... |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:29:00 -
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Enduros wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Eve in the opening video says the goal is power. Force is usually the most effective way of gaining and exerting power.
You mean command of force. You alone will have little force. Cannibal Kane would teach you otherwise. |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:40:00 -
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Enduros wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Enduros wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Eve in the opening video says the goal is power. Force is usually the most effective way of gaining and exerting power.
You mean command of force. You alone will have little force. Cannibal Kane would teach you otherwise. The shirtless blond guy shooting nubs in hi-sec? I doubt it, I don't go to hi-sec that much.
Which has nothing to do with the fact that single players can project a lot of force,
which he clearly proves. |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:54:00 -
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Enduros wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Did i spot a strawman?
You thought I live in hi-sec? Wasn't actually sure,
thus edited my post.
Doesn't matter where you live, because it doesn't change the facts. |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:57:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Atlantis Fuanan wrote:He is so right! I always look at these blob-ganks stuff and think ... where are you balls? PVP in this game seems to have a different meaning every other has in mind:
Instead of having a skilled competition who is the best pilot (SP and skill-wise) it's nearly only number-based factors that decide an outcome of a PVP-Fight. Also this attitude of people just going for every f*ing kill is so poor.
I wonder if these people really feel that awesome if they manage to gank a miner (Oh yes, it was a very hard and intense fight) or just blob another group (It was a balanced fight, wasn't it?).
But this results ofcourse of the lack of PVP in general. Some people WANT to shoot stuff, but there is no incentive to go for smaller fights as loosing ships seems to be a real pain for even the pvp-dedicated players. So instead they pick up their buddies (which is good) and go to hunt everything, even solo, not dangerous ships (which is just poor).
I wonder, so many people seem to be having billions of ISK on their wallets, why are so few people not ready to throw in some pricey ships and just have a skilled fight? Are people really just about to have their Killcounter go up like in any FPS? I know, right? Like those 100-man fleets in curse. They were just sitting off the test staging systems with drones assigned and that was about it for you if you undocked.
Excuse my ignorance, but shouldn't instaundockwarps go past any bubbles on grid in front of the undock?
There's a certain distance bubbles can be dropped next to the station? |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:59:00 -
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Enduros wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Enduros wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Did i spot a strawman?
You thought I live in hi-sec? Wasn't actually sure, thus edited my post. Doesn't matter where you live, because it doesn't change the facts. Which facts are those?
Read the edited post.
Single players can project a lot of force onto others. |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 19:02:00 -
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Please don't mistake my posts as pure opposition.
It's simply that my observations tell me that your opinion isn't factually correct.
Edit: posting on my phone and hating it. |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 19:16:00 -
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Quote:You mean on to selected others, right? Because judging from recent kills all it takes is fitting a point and both you and him would not engage. Whose recent kills?
In case you're talking about me... I was deliberately not bringing myself into this,
although i have examples of my own that would show that single individuals can project a lot of force.
I picked Kane, because he's a pretty (pun intended xD) example.
Bringing myself into this would just scream bias.
Force projection usually is about selected others, unless one achieves world domination.
How does it matter who or how many the force is projected on?
As long as single people can make groups of people apologize publicly (as example)
force is projected successfully... no? |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 19:22:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:If people stop blowing up ships, the value of minerals will decrease and miners won't be able to make any profit so they will quit the game. By blowing up miners, you're actually doing them a favour. Sorry, but that's highly inaccurate.
The income of miners is always the same,
except in periods of bigger price changes.
When mineral prices increase, everything dependent on mineral prices gets more expensive and vice versa.
Miners pretty much always earn the same value.
That said, you are still right, because most people aren't aware of this fact. |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 19:23:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Quote:You mean on to selected others, right? Because judging from recent kills all it takes is fitting a point and both you and him would not engage. Whose recent kills? In case you're talking about me... I was deliberately not bringing myself into this, although i have examples of my own that would show that single individuals can project a lot of force. I picked Kane, because he's a pretty (pun intended xD) example. Bringing myself into this would just scream bias. Force projection usually is about selected others, unless one achieves world domination. How does it matter who or how many the force is projected on? As long as single people can make groups of people apologize publicly (as example) force is projected successfully... no? Ask Harry Forever Oh come on!
You can't seriously put Harry on the same page as Kane or myself...
I know i'm not active anymore, but still... |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 19:52:00 -
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Enduros wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Quote:You mean on to selected others, right? Because judging from recent kills all it takes is fitting a point and both you and him would not engage. Whose recent kills? In case you're talking about me... I was deliberately not bringing myself into this, although i have examples of my own that would show that single individuals can project a lot of force. I picked Kane, because he's a pretty (pun intended xD) example. Bringing myself into this would just scream bias. Force projection usually is about selected others, unless one achieves world domination. How does it matter who or how many the force is projected on? As long as single people can make groups of people apologize publicly (as example) force is projected successfully... no? Can't call it unsuccessful, however not very far-reaching as getting someone to apologize bears little consequence for the rest of us. We have also wondered far off the topic about how eve combat pvp is held in too high regard for what it in practice.
Derailing the thread wasn't my intention and i apologize if i did so.
Thanks Alavaria for the response, btw. |
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